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RE: Fitting a transmission oil cooler. - 3/3/2011 19:14:16   
sundanceuk


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Status: offline 		I have found that when trying to undo the nuts on the pipes going into the chevy radiator for trans cooler that using a split ring or "Flare Nut" wrenches/spanners works better than normal open ended spanners, and don't even think about using an adjustable spanner on them.
All the original GM trans cooler is is either a small tin can (similar to a red bull can) that acts as a heat exchanger with the return flow engine coolant, or sometimes it is a coiled tube set up, all very cheap and cheerful and effective for normal driving or towing the hideously expensive tiny ERDE trailers from HALFRUADS but not much good for towing  caravans etc.


Clive, Please Please buy some extra security items for your caravan, Wheel clamps,hitch lock, big chains, big dog (thats why andyp hasnt got a caravan, who would be afraid of a susage dog !!!), Caravans are Oh so easy to dissapear off of your drive

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RE: Fitting a transmission oil cooler. - 3/3/2011 19:30:42   
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Status: offline 		Clive, totally agree with Stu, on security issue, best get youself a trunk monkey as well

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RE: Fitting a transmission oil cooler. - 3/3/2011 20:45:17   
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RE: Fitting a transmission oil cooler. - 3/3/2011 20:54:27   
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Status: offline 		Clive .....I fitted my cooler in around 1-1/2 hours. I run the fluid through the new cooler as most factory coolers that are part of the radiator pick up residual heat from the radiator.
If you want come round and have a look at mine. (I am only a few miles from you.) The radiator fittings on your van should be held in with a C clip and come of easier than trying to undo the nuts.

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RE: Fitting a transmission oil cooler. - 3/3/2011 21:14:09   
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Status: offline 		thanx for the advice guys as for security i have it in hand alko lock anyday now fits while towing too so secure-ish while stopped ..but i doubt ill leave van alone with caravan attached ....

also looking at wheel clamps....

at present ive a chain i useed to secure my bike with wrapped round the hitch x3 padlocks 1x is alarm motion type fitted alarm inside the caravan itself and i now park the astro across the drive blocking it in totally.....

as i say thanx for advice..and and good products u can reccomend gratefully appreciated



as for the oil cooler Chris that would be great if we could arrange a suitable convenient time for you i can pop over and check it out ill PM my mobile to you buddy cheers

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RE: Fitting a transmission oil cooler. - 4/3/2011 20:12:51   
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Status: offline 		Any time over the weekend Clive. I have PM'd you with my phone number.

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RE: Fitting a transmission oil cooler. - 31/3/2011 20:42:45   
ringotwinky9650


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Thanks for all the information Looks like i have spring clips on the cooler pips.
Andy F. or anyone, Do you know where to get the spring clips that hold the cooler
pip that goes into the Rad/Cooler.
Does the kit on the first page have to be different because of the spring clips
Thanks Ringotwinky
http://www.bulkpart.com/transmission-cooler.html

http://www.transmissioncoolers.us/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=hayden-transaver-cooler


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RE: Fitting a transmission oil cooler. - 1/4/2011 22:17:10   
ringotwinky9650


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Have been looking for the Auto Trans Cooler Line connector spring clips
Have found then in the U.S.A. but they do not ship to U.K. this is what i thinkthey look
like This is where the cooler line joins the radiator

http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_x_9110124-P_x_x?cm_mmc=CSE-_-Become-_-VALUE3-_-VALUE4&srccode=cii_16079562&cpncode=23-134770396-2

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/RNB-800-605/Application/?prefilter=1

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RE: Fitting a transmission oil cooler. - 1/4/2011 22:31:56   
ringotwinky9650


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If YOU HAVE A 1996 AND younger van you will have a spring clip where the
trans cooler joins your radiator , AN explanation of how to remove the spring clip
is below
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/RNB-800-605/Application/?prefilter=1


Ringotwinky
http://www.autozmagz.com/search/oil+cooler+line+retaining+clip+at+the+fan+shroud+gmc+denali

USE the down load button on the page

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RE: Fitting a transmission oil cooler. - 3/4/2011 23:40:03   
ringotwinky9650


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Those with a spring clip holding the return trans oil pipe from the top
of the radiator can remove this nut 1 ( and replace it with this one ) 2
The one on the left ( Use the fitting on the right 3 to screw back into the one you took out of the radiator . Put the rubber tube over each barb and tighten with jubilee clip
These fittings fit most 1991 and later FWD cars and 1995 and later GM trucks with 3/8 transmission lines ( FEMALE hosebarb threads on to factory transmission line ( MALE hosebarb threads on to the radiator
DONT KNOW WHERE THE LINK IS GOING TO POP UP Ringotwinky




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RE: Fitting a transmission oil cooler. - 5/4/2011 22:56:24   
ringotwinky9650


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Have been lookin for some time for someone in US to ship these parts
Have now found one but shipping costs are high. Price for the two adaptors £12.00
Shipping £34.00 Im not to sure but if you take one of the fitting that came with your
cooler and cut the nut off you may be able to use it where the spring clip is.
With the other end you need to put a splay so as to stop the rubber hose coming off
Best of luck Ringotwinky

http://www.ontheball.com/coolers.htm


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RE: Fitting a transmission oil cooler. - 6/4/2011 13:10:26   
ringotwinky9650


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Have today found a place that sells these adapter at a good price
These are air compression fittings from Sealey Tools. I got these from a local tool shop in Hastings THORCRAFT LTD UNIT 4 HAYWOOD Way. ivyhouse industrial Park
Hastings TN354PL Tel 01424 717453 web www.toolsbypost.com
These two fittings cost £3.50 not £12.00 +£32.00 shipping
HOPE THIS helps Ringotwinky

http://www.toolsbypost.com/ SORRY TO SAY BUT THESE FITTINGS DONOT WORK
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RE: Fitting a transmission oil cooler. - 6/4/2011 15:52:22   
joeastromatt


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Status: offline 		hi sorry i missed your call having a problem with phone today...and cordless in the house...... flat batteryagain

great find on the parts do u have the code No. of the exact part as i cant find any that are 3/8  same thread....also how do the thread length compare to the GM part and the sealy part...id assume they need to be exact length...

certainly cheaper than the US

cheers buddy

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RE: Fitting a transmission oil cooler. - 6/4/2011 20:25:20   
ringotwinky9650


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IN THE LAST POST HERE I HAVE PUT THESE FITTINGS DONOT FIT
Today i was talking to a mechanic who rebuilds transmissions he told me that he
always diverted the trans oil away from the main radiator and in to one or two
trans coolers, His reason being he said, if the oil pipe split inside the radiator you would have water inside the transmission Room for thought.
All the best Ringotwinky

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RE: Fitting a transmission oil cooler. - 7/4/2011 0:33:28   
andyp


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Status: offline 		And if it splits outside you'd have air. Some choice

I think I'd still favour using the radiator in line with the aftermarket cooler due to it's ability to carry a lot of heat away. Think about it this way, if you have a lump of red hot steel to cool, do you plunge it in water or blow on it?

Andy

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RE: Fitting a transmission oil cooler. - 7/4/2011 6:42:26   
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Status: offline 		well for me ive tried towing with GM cooler standalone 228*F  this was a 50 mile motorway trip to blackpool

disconnected GM cooler and RUN standalone trans oil cooler (bout half radiator in depth n length) 260*F same trip as above same roads

so now my next option is to run in sync IE: connect back to GM cooler THEN piggy back the trans oil cooler HOPEFULLY thats gonna sort it

if NOT may look at same size cooler again to piggy back that to make the cooler bigger capacity OR an aftermarket electric fan set up on a switch



ive still had no feed back on how everyone else measure ur trans oil temp???surely some one is fitting some sort of gauge either digital or analogue

if NOT ur trans oil maybe running as hot as mine was in the aftermarket cooler alone sceanario 260*f or worse

and i hate to see anyone lose a transmission and £1500

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RE: Fitting a transmission oil cooler. - 7/4/2011 7:56:13   
ringotwinky9650


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Managed to find this its the cheapest shipping i have found yet
Ringotwinky

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/13018-GM-Car-Truck-radiator-adapter-fitting-kit-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem1e5c4f9c39QQitemZ130397740089QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

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RE: Fitting a transmission oil cooler. - 7/4/2011 8:33:36   
andyp


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Status: offline 		Clive. I can't see any reason why you can't stick an aftermarket temp sender in the trans fluid line and fit a gauge.

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Something like this is all you need:

http://www.japperformanceparts.co.uk/cdetails.asp?ID=100868996

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RE: Fitting a transmission oil cooler. - 7/4/2011 13:14:52   
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Status: offline 		Andy, That's just what I was thinking of doing, but until I add an aftermarket cooler I am not sure where to add the senser unit. There is only a short piece of rubber hose between the metal pipes and the oil cooler section of the radiator and I did not want to cut that without knowing what size of Tee piece I need to fit in it. Is this pipe 3/8 inch internal diameter, forgive my ignorance but my background is electrical not mechanical?

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RE: Fitting a transmission oil cooler. - 7/4/2011 23:52:15   
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Status: offline 		Forgive my ignorance too Phil - I don't know what size it is either but being a pipe the quote dimension is ID as opposed to tube which is quote OD.

If I was going to fit a sender to the standard set up I'd chop the pipe and silver solder a section of brass in there that was tapped to take the sender.

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